[Firehol-support] message from xt_physdev when running firehol in bridge configuration

Phil Whineray phil at sanewall.org
Sun Jan 11 10:33:15 GMT 2015


Hi 

On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 09:51:50AM +0100, Phineas Gage wrote:
> > On Dec 4, 2014, at 1:11 AM, Tsaousis, Costa <costa at tsaousis.gr> wrote:
> > I guess the error message says it all: using --physdev-out in the
> > OUTPUT, FORWARD and POSTROUTING chains for non-bridged traffic is not
> > supported anymore.

I've been doing some research on this and now have a setup which
shows what is currently (not) possible.

I have created a setup, this is a simplified view:

            ppp0 = wan
             |
            FW1
             |
 eth0 -------+------- wlan0
  = wired   br0        = wifi
            lan

Below I've created an example firehol.conf. The 'lan2wifi' router works
as expected and the 'lan' interface shows up the problem originally
reported by Phineas.  N.B. Disable fast activation to see the actual
with physout matching.

In essence, this is the situation...

iptables alone allows us to control the following:
   1. route between interfaces ppp0 and br0 
   2. bridge traversing br0 to/from physical devices eth0/wlan0
   3. FW1 incoming from ppp0, br0, eth0 and wlan0
   4. FW1 outgoing to ppp0, br0

We cannot directly control outout to eth0 or wlan0, the bridged devices:
   1. routing from input ppp0 to physical output eth0 or wlan0
   2. packets from local host to physical output eth0 or wlan0

This is because the information needed is not present when the decision
will be made. Netfilter knows that it will send to br0 but not which
specific interface.

Since we are creating stateful rules, I think it might be OK to just
use the physin part? It is the firehol logic which reverses this to
create the physout but provided the original SYN is matched with physin,
physout is only really double-checking something that is already known.

I have not put any rules to try to distinguish wired from wifi in the
'lan2wan' router: this has the same problem. It is possible to know
in iptables the physin device for traffic starting on the lan, but not
which will be chosen on the reverse journey or for connections initiated
from the wan.

We might want to disable or warn about physout on firehol interfaces
before the rules gets to iptables. I don't suppose we can know if the
device in a router is part of a bridge, so we cannot help that.

If we want actual matching on physout, I believe we will need to involve
ebtables. Output traffic for the rule is MARKed, then the logic completed
with ebtables to combine the mark plus knowledge of the physical output
interface:
   http://serverfault.com/questions/607224/iptables-matching-packets-for-bridged-interface

Not sure how much time I have but I will try to put some actual code
ideas forward before too long: since it is my home network I have now
organised like this, there is an incentive to make it work...

Cheers
Phil

--- SNIP ---
version 6

interface ppp+ wan
	protection strong
	policy deny

	client all accept
	server ping accept

	server ipv6error accept
	client ipv6neigh accept
	server ipv6neigh accept
	client ipv6router accept
	server ipv6router accept


interface br0 lan
	policy reject

	client all accept

	server "dhcp dns" accept

	# Access to router only over wired
	server ssh accept physin eth0

	server ipv6error accept
	client ipv6neigh accept
	server ipv6neigh accept
	client ipv6router accept
	server ipv6router accept

router lan2wan inface eth0 outface ppp+
	# route all outgoing traffic
	route all accept
	route ipv6error accept

	# client in a router is the incoming traffic
	client ping accept

router wired2wifi physin eth0 physout wlan0
	# route all outgoing traffic
	# no restrictions from wired to wireless
	route all accept
	route ipv6error accept

	# client in a router is the incoming traffic
	# accept limited incoming from wireless to wired
	client ping accept
	client ssh accept
--- SNIP ---



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